Please bear with us as we try out yet another new commenting system. Currently none of the old comments are appearing on the site, but I am assured that this is being worked on. In the meantime enjoy the system that allows you to re-publish your comments on Twitter or Facebook and also allows for embedding images and YouTube.
Finally eh!?
Thanks for you patience,
RowThree staff.
This discussion currently has 70 responses.
August 20, 2009
Google Profile as login is not connecting. The little window pops up and the “working” icon keeps a spinning and nothing, not even a timeout, ever happens. -MWM
August 20, 2009
Apparently, it only doesn’t work correctly in Opera… which doesn’t bode well for me commenting much with the new system
August 20, 2009
I’ll see if I can learn more about that Joffi. If it doesn’t work properly in all browsers then we probably won’t use it.
Thanks fr your input.
August 20, 2009
Google and Facebook are the two that currently are not connecting in Opera 10 beta 3, all others seem to be good.
August 20, 2009
Except it didn’t save my edited name that time… trying again
August 20, 2009
Testing the auto link with Facebook.
August 20, 2009
Oh, don’t mind me, mouthing off my thoughts as I think them and as I test. I almost got Facebook to work, but it got stuck on the very end of the login back here process. Google gets stuck initially. It makes a call to google which seems usually go through and then gets stuck waiting on js-kit.com to reply. All this with the initial little popup but no button to press.
August 20, 2009
That doesn’t seem to do anything.
How about a smiley?
August 20, 2009
It is a very nice system, though, isn’t it?
One thing that is still missing is editing one’s own posts… So my forgetting words and constant mispellings don’t continue to make me look more foolish than I already am
Blek… and an option to kill emoticons and just use the text would also be nice.
I’m nitpicking, though.
August 20, 2009
I can’t seem to use YouTube or emoticons with Google Chrome.
August 20, 2009
Trying out YouTube now using IE 7
August 20, 2009
Test
Lisa Ekdahl – Cry Me A River
(what I’m currently listening to)
August 20, 2009
The tiny video is tiny. *chuckle* Nice size, really. Can click to go to YouTube direct in new window for full options and it doesn’t eat up the page here.
August 20, 2009
Facebook just connected immediately upon trying. I manually added the link via the profile edit, so perhaps that helped things? Or it could just be internet route issues, who knows.
Google Friend Connect/Profile is still just spinning wheels, however.
August 20, 2009
Avatar reset to a new blank one upon Facebook addition. Easily fixed via the avatar management, but irksome.
August 20, 2009
Things seem to be working in Chrome now. It should work in Opera too no maybe? I changed some settings in the dashboard. It is now remembering me and also allows YouTube and emoticons.
August 20, 2009
Instant commenting seems to be working now too.
How about simple html?
Wow, this is really nice.
A link?
August 20, 2009
Trying another link.
August 20, 2009
How about another pic?
August 20, 2009
This is awesome.
August 20, 2009
You know, we had problems with Google friend connect over on the main site for a while and just removed it. ”Spinning its wheels” is exactly what it doing over there too.
August 20, 2009
I think we’ve figured out the problem. Give me a couple if minutes here…
August 20, 2009
I think Google Friend Connect should work now.
August 20, 2009
Not sure why Blogger isn’t an option though.
August 20, 2009
Screencast video of what happens with Opera and Google Connect here:
http://screencast.com/t/meb3adOyiyZ
Note the calls to google and js-kit and the way the time resets, making it seem like it’s caught in a loop.
August 20, 2009
Hmm… my video and photo on this post disappeared and the entire thread tree went flat and reversed order…
August 20, 2009
Flat – because I set it to be that way. I was missing some of your responses with the nested and auto commenting. I didn’t like having to go back through the entire conversation to see if you responded. I know other admins here don’t like it either.
Reversed order – because that’s how it was before. Easy for others get used to if/when we integrate to the main site.
August 20, 2009
I’m having problems logging in to anything at all. It doesn’t recognize me at all with any of the systems. It’s kind of annoying.
August 20, 2009
Aha! I was able to log in with the Twitter. Now it should remember me everytime I come back.
August 20, 2009
Oh, wow, I haven’t heard Sixpence None the Richer in YEARS. I always wished they did more – but I only really liked the singles they released. I heard one of their whole albums and was kinda meh.
August 20, 2009
Aw, no threading?
Ah well, at least we found a next-gen commenting system that Andrew doesn’t hate.
August 20, 2009
We could do nested commenting if we want to. It looks like it is working here.
August 20, 2009
How did you log in Jandy? I’m having MAJOR problems logging in. I tried with twitter and I got a bunch of weird code on screen. Good friends just seems to do nothing and Facebook just says it is “logging in…” but nothing ever pops up.
August 20, 2009
It also takes FOREVER for the main site to recognize how many comments there are for each post. They all say “0 comments” for a while until js-kit catches up. That’s kind of annoying. We may have to disable this until the bugs are worked out.
August 20, 2009
I’m not even seeing Jandy’s comments here… The came to me via the comments RSS, but they do not appear to be here…
August 20, 2009
Actually, to more clear, they do not show in the main Echo comments thingy. They do show in the sidebar comments, however.
August 20, 2009
Can’t remember. It remembered my log-in from when Robert Scoble was testing the alpha version a couple of months ago. I believe I used my OpenID login, though. That’s what I tend to do if it’s available, and it’s showing the OpenID logo in the comment dashboard here.
August 20, 2009
All the comments I made were replies to Andrew, not first-level comments. Do they show up further down the page maybe?
August 20, 2009
Ah ha, they have shown up now. They definitely were not there before, however.
August 20, 2009
Yay, and that comment of yours popped in without me refreshing the page! That’s my favorite thing in the world. I’ve become so impatient with refreshing.
August 20, 2009
I’m not sure how I feel about this.
August 20, 2009
random image test
August 20, 2009
I suppose in theory this would work if people were willing to go through with building up their profile and now simply posting as the default “Guest” all of the time.
August 20, 2009
I am also not a huge fan of the nested commenting, which I’ve made clear before. On a site that isn’t comment heavy, sure, it works, but not on a site like ours where we get 100+ comments on an article.
August 21, 2009
I can remove the comment nesting. And the customization of colors is pretty asy, but the problem is I don’t know what I’m changing. There are about 20 different color attributes (main background, secondary background, wrap background, main text, 2nd text, 3rd tex, 4th text, highlight text, etc etc). I can change the colors of each of those fairly easily, I just don’t know what each one is so it will take some time and some playing with to make the colors juts right. Probably some time on Sunday I can get it figured out.
August 21, 2009
If you right-click in the comment area and choose “inspect element” Chrome will throw up a source window where you can see which classes are affecting each div/span. I find the Firefox/Firebug console easier to use (works similarly, but it’s cleaner on showing the CSS, and lets you preview modifications really easily), but I know you use Chrome most of the time, right?
August 21, 2009
It seems to me that comment nesting is MORE important when there are a lot of comments. Generally what happens is I read the first ten or fifteen comments then I lose track of the conversation and I don’t always have time to or feel like reading dozens of comments that may or may not relate to what I had said. So I don’t. With nested comments, I can check and make sure I’m following up on the threads I started/posted in without bothering with the others unless I have time. Especially when comment threads start following tangents, as ours often do.
August 21, 2009
But that’s the thing, you shouldn’t have to build up a profile. Just log in with your credentials from Facebook or Google or Blogger or Twitter or Yahoo or OpenID. If you don’t have ANY of those, you can just select where it says “Guest” and put in your name. Avatar optional.
It’s a little buggy on the log-in, though, Andrew’s right – I logged out to see what it looked like, and when I logged back in I had to refresh the page for it to show me the logged in comment box. But it’s still very early beta.
August 21, 2009
Jandy – I see you left comments in this thread on the side bar, but I can’t find them when I look through the comments. That’s what I hate about nesting comments.
August 21, 2009
Nevermind. Now they’ve appeared magically.
August 21, 2009
Google friend connect is still not working…
August 21, 2009
I do use Chrome almost exclusively except when I’m testing things. I shall try your suggestion.
August 21, 2009
Did you try logging in with Google, then after the login popup disappears, refreshing the whole page?
August 21, 2009
Testing a reply from email.
August 21, 2009
I just logged in with Twitter. That worked. But now the main page says there are 0 comments on all posts. I hate these external commenting systems. They look awesome at first and then end up being kind of wonky with other pieces of code within the site.
August 21, 2009
Sweet! That totally worked, and again popped in without refreshing. I love that. Gotta refresh for the sidebar to update, though – even the js-kit widget doesn’t refresh by itself. :/
August 21, 2009
I saw that earlier (that the comment count went to zero), but they’re showing properly now. Not sure what changed.
I guess it’s my early adopter side coming out, but I’m apparently really tolerant of a bit of wonkiness in exchange for being able to connect more easily with other sites, log in with my logins from other sites (I haven’t had the issues you have, but I’ve only used Twitter and OpenID), crosspost with a button, follow by email or RSS with one click, see all my comments using the service across all sites on one admin screen, etc.
August 21, 2009
Yeah, it is kind of cool that it appears without refreshing. But if I leave the site and come back I have to hunt for this conversation instead of just going to the end and looking for the last post.
August 21, 2009
Yeah, it’d be nice if the system popped the latest active thread to the top, the way Friendfeed does. That’d be an improvement. Also looks like comments don’t have permalinks? That would be very useful – you could follow email updates to your threads and then click directly to the convo. But the email just links to the post right now.
I’ll write these things down and submit them to the team…wonder if they have a GetSatisfaction page?
August 22, 2009
Tomorrow I am going to look into the admin side of this to see what I can tweak, at the very least take away the blue text. Also, shouldn’t the type box be at the bottom of the thread? I am using Chrome and twitter and facebook were fine. I hear there have been problems with Opera using certain logins, but given that you have like nine choices of how to login in that isn’t really a deal breaker… also a small percentage of our readers use Opera according to our stats.
August 22, 2009
I am confused, Andrew, what are you referring to when you say main page? you mean in admin it is not showing things? Again that is hardly a deal breaker seeing as the people who will use the site are not going to be using admin. or do you mean main site as Row Three because I am not seeing any Echo over there.
August 23, 2009
New comments come in at the top, so it makes sense for the comment box to also be at the top.
August 23, 2009
He means the MorePop index page (the page showing all the posts, as opposed to an individual post). Echo is not consistently updating the comment counts in the post header, where it says “x Comments.” Sometimes it shows “0 Comments” when there are some, other times it shows the correct number. Not sure what’s causing that, but I’ve noticed it, too.
August 23, 2009
could you direct me to an example… I know this thread says 78 comments and the sidebar says 63 but that is because for whatever reason there was a duplication of some comments a while back. but at the top it has the right count.
August 23, 2009
yeah, position of comment box makes sense now.
August 23, 2009
testing something
August 23, 2009
http://skitch.com/faithx5/bhmq2/more-pop-at-row-three-music-television-books-and-everything-else-that-crosses-our-minds
and
http://skitch.com/faithx5/bhmq5/more-pop-at-row-three-music-television-books-and-everything-else-that-crosses-our-minds
Screenshots of the front page showing 0 comments on the two posts we’ve been commenting on. If I refresh the front page, there’a a fair chance it will show the right numbers, but I haven’t been able to figure out what causes it to show the number or not.
August 23, 2009
I will turn off “nesting or threading” right now and see how it looks. I will also put the username and password for the js-kit comments in the forum for you guys to see and login and play with.
August 23, 2009
I promise I will get to fixing the color scheme here too. Just been out of town and tomorrow is the podcast – will try to get to this on Tuesday if possible.
August 27, 2009
Um, what happened to the part where I could tell it to cross-post my comment to Twitter or Facebook and all that? They just added FriendFeed support to Echo, and I was about to be all over that and transfer full allegiance to Echo, but I con’t see the “to” field on here now.
*confused*